Earth File #1674 // SOURCED record

Reported observation of Venus and Jupiter over Clermont-Ferrand

On September 17, 2012, from 6:50 a.m. to 7:20 a.m., a witness reported seeing two luminous phenomena in the sky and taking photographs toward the east and south. GEIPAN identified them as Venus and Jupiter and classified the case A.
Source // GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive Earth record separated from alien editorial
FRED // CASE CONSOLE
SOL-3 // FILE 1674 // CH 10
CONTEXT VIEW // NOT SOURCE MEDIA
CASE FINGERPRINT
2A50-00C3-802B
CLOCK // NOT PRECISE
SENSOR CONTEXT WITNESS CONTEXT
Reported hover / stationary phaseLIGHT
FRED // RECEIPT RETAINED // generated from Earth Record metadata
LIGHT
Clermont-Ferrand, Auvergne, Puy-de-Dôme // Sep 17, 2012. The diagram on the left is a structured-record visualization—not a reconstruction, photograph, sensor return, or additional evidence.
EXPLAINED CLOCK // NOT PRECISE GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive
Witness pictureSingle witness 1 interface marker(s) // not a headcount estimate
Motion traceReported hover / stationary phaseStationary, The eastern phenomenon became invisible at sunrise
Sensor / evidencePhotographsPhotographs, Official scientific investigation
Fred's paperwork completeness9/9 fields // 100%
Interface completeness only // this score does not measure truth, evidence strength, or extraterrestrial probability
1 document(s)1 source node(s)7 structured claim(s) location precision: locality StationaryThe eastern phenomenon became invisible at sunrise
FRED // RECEIPT RETAINEDAn interesting report is allowed to have an explanation. This is why the label stays attached to the box even after the mystery gets less glamorous.
Fred case console // context visualization // not evidence
Visitor Transmission // AlienBox editorial layer
We were present in the vicinity as observers only. The two luminous phenomena were not ours, and we did not cause them. Your record reports a witness seeing them from Clermont-Ferrand on September 17, 2012, and taking two photographs. GEIPAN classified the case A, identifying the southern phenomenon as Jupiter and the eastern one as Venus, which became invisible at sunrise. A tidy result. We filed our observation separately, because apparently one archive was insufficient.
Fred // Earth Records Liaison // AlienBox editorial layer
A useful case for remembering that “unidentified” is not a synonym for “extraterrestrial.” GEIPAN classified this record A: Venus and Jupiter, with the eastern light obligingly disappearing at sunrise. The label on the box eventually matched the contents, which is more than can be said for several departments at Gorkon Outpost. Off the Earth Record, the Visitors were observers rather than the cause. That editorial detail does not identify either phenomenon in the human record; it merely means my relatives were watching a planetary explanation unfold and, commendably, did not make it stranger.
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When
September 17, 2012
Where
Clermont-Ferrand, Auvergne, Puy-de-Dôme
Morphology
LIGHT
Evidence authority
SOURCED
Resolution
EXPLAINED

Why Fred Thinks This Case Matters

AlienBox comparative analysis from structured Earth Record fields // not a new source // not a change in evidence grade
Console archetype // Published-resolution comparison

Fred keeps this file near the top of the pile because the record names 1 sensor type, the source also supplies a published resolution to compare against the original report, and visual-media evidence is explicitly referenced. That combination makes the case useful for cross-archive comparison without changing its evidence grade.

The source record includes a published resolution field. AlienBox treats it as an attributed source assessment to compare with the original report, not as an AlienBox verdict.

What strengthens the record

  • 1 linked source document provide provenance for the Earth Record.
  • 7 claim citations tie extracted statements back to source excerpts or locators.
  • Recorded sensor context: Photographs.
  • Recorded evidence context: Photographs and Official Scientific Investigation.
  • The source record includes a published resolution: Venus and Jupiter.

What limits the record

  • The structured record does not establish multiple independent observers.
  • The current dossier is anchored to one source network rather than independent source networks.

What would help resolve it

  • Can the originating record establish an exact number of observers and whether their observations were independent?
  • Can the source establish a usable duration for the observation rather than only a date or narrative sequence?

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Internal research paths chosen from this dossier's structured fields. Similarity is navigation, not corroboration.

Earth Record // SOURCED

Human-world claims below are kept separate from Fred and Visitor editorial/lore. Translation changes language, not evidence status.
Witness typesSingle witness
Sensor typesPhotographs
Evidence typesPhotographs, Official scientific investigation
The observation occurred on September 17, 2012, from 6:50 a.m. to 7:20 a.m.
Claim #17378 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“On September 17, 2012, from 6:50 a.m. to 7:20 a.m., a witness was intrigued by the presence of two luminous phenomena in the sky.”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Description paragraph
A witness reported two luminous phenomena in the sky and took two photographs, one toward the east and one toward the south.
Claim #17379 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“The witness took two photographs: one in the direction of the east and the second in the direction of the south.”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Description paragraph
The source identifies the southern phenomenon as Jupiter, with a magnitude of -2.5.
Claim #17380 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 96% extraction confidence
“The witness undoubtedly observed the planet Jupiter in the south, with a magnitude of -2.5”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Description paragraph
The source identifies the eastern phenomenon as Venus, with a magnitude of -4.7, and states that it became invisible at sunrise.
Claim #17381 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 96% extraction confidence
“and saw the planet Venus in the east, with a magnitude of -4.7 (that is, even brighter), which became invisible at sunrise.”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Description paragraph
GEIPAN classified the case as A and described it as an observation of Venus and Jupiter.
Claim #17382 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“case "A": observation of Venus and Jupiter”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0002]] Classification statement
The case page lists the type of phenomenon as Jupiter.
Claim #17383 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“Type of phenomenon Jupiter”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Case details
The case page lists the observation region as Auvergne and the department as Puy-de-Dôme.
Claim #17384 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“Region Auvergne Department Puy-de-Dôme”
Source: CLERMONT-FERRAND (63) 17.09.2012 // [[T0001]] Case details
FRED // PUBLIC DESK CHANNEL

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