Earth File #2050 // SOURCED record

Savigné-sur-Lathan: two points of light attributed to the space shuttle and ISS

On 17 March 2009, an observation at Savigné-sur-Lathan involved two points of light. GEIPAN classified the case B, considering it a probable observation of the space shuttle and the International Space Station in formation; the reported change in direction may have resulted from an incorrect estimate behind a chimney.
Source // GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive Earth record separated from alien editorial
FRED // CASE CONSOLE
SOL-3 // FILE 2050 // CH 08
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CASE FINGERPRINT
122F-E07B-4487
CLOCK // NOT PRECISE
Reported motionLIGHT
FRED // PLEASE DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEM // generated from Earth Record metadata
LIGHT
Savigné-sur-Lathan, Indre-et-Loire // Mar 17, 2009. The diagram on the left is a structured-record visualization—not a reconstruction, photograph, sensor return, or additional evidence.
PARTIALLY EXPLAINED CLOCK // NOT PRECISE GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive
Witness picture Not stated 0 interface marker(s) // not a headcount estimate
Motion traceReported motionreported change in direction, changes in brightness and appearance
Sensor / evidenceNo sensor type statedwitness testimony
Fred's paperwork completeness7/9 fields // 78%
Interface completeness only // this score does not measure truth, evidence strength, or extraterrestrial probability
1 document(s)1 source node(s)10 structured claim(s) location precision: locality reported change in directionchanges in brightness and appearance
FRED // PLEASE DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEMPart of the drawer closes; part of it does not. Annoying, but considerably more useful than pretending uncertainty comes in one size.
Fred case console // context visualization // not evidence
Visitor Transmission // AlienBox editorial layer
Yes, those two points were ours. The 17 March 2009 observation at Savigné-sur-Lathan was recorded as two lights in formation, with reported changes in direction, brightness, and appearance. GEIPAN classified the case B, describing it as a probable observation of the space shuttle and the ISS; the direction change may have been misestimated behind a chimney. That is a reasonable Earth-side filing. It remains incorrect, but admirably tidy.
Fred // Earth Records Liaison // AlienBox editorial layer
A SOURCED GEIPAN record, classified B, finds the two lights probably consistent with the shuttle and ISS in formation. The reported turn occurred behind a chimney, which is precisely where directional certainty goes to file a leave request. Brightness changes also have ordinary explanations in the record. So: a useful, partially explained observation—not a confirmed extraterrestrial arrival, and not a failure of imagination either. Off the Earth Record, yes, yes: we finally noticed us. My younger cousin Pip Vell, a Krellian with a regrettable fondness for Gorkon Blue, stopped during an observation pass to watch a county fair from a safe distance. He then spent forty minutes arguing that the Ferris wheel qualified as primitive orbital infrastructure. He also collected the Earth cup. I am still processing the maintenance-cart racing proposal.
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When
March 17, 2009
Where
Savigné-sur-Lathan, Indre-et-Loire
Morphology
LIGHT
Evidence authority
SOURCED
Resolution
PARTIALLY EXPLAINED

Why Fred Thinks This Case Matters

AlienBox comparative analysis from structured Earth Record fields // not a new source // not a change in evidence grade
Console archetype // Published-resolution comparison

Fred keeps this file near the top of the pile because the source also supplies a published resolution to compare against the original report. That combination makes the case useful for cross-archive comparison without changing its evidence grade.

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What strengthens the record

  • 1 linked source document provide provenance for the Earth Record.
  • 10 claim citations tie extracted statements back to source excerpts or locators.
  • Recorded evidence context: Witness Testimony.
  • The source record includes a published resolution: GEIPAN classification B: probable observation of the space shuttle and the International Space Station.

What limits the record

  • No sensor type is recorded in the structured Earth Record.
  • The structured record does not establish multiple independent observers.
  • The current dossier is anchored to one source network rather than independent source networks.

What would help resolve it

  • Can the originating record establish an exact number of observers and whether their observations were independent?
  • Did any radar, infrared, optical, telemetry, or other instrument record the event, and is that material preserved?
  • Can the source establish a usable duration for the observation rather than only a date or narrative sequence?

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Earth Record // SOURCED

Human-world claims below are kept separate from Fred and Visitor editorial/lore. Translation changes language, not evidence status.
Witness typesNot stated
Sensor typesNot stated
Evidence typeswitness testimony
The observation date was 17 March 2009.
Claim #20891 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Observation date 17/03/2009”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
The case is associated with the Centre region and the Indre-et-Loire department.
Claim #20892 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Region Centre Department Indre-et-Loire”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
The phenomenon type is listed as ISS and space shuttle.
Claim #20893 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Phenomenon type ISS and space shuttle”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
The case is classified B.
Claim #20894 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Classification B”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
The case summary describes an observation of two points of light and identifies it as a probable observation of the space shuttle and the ISS.
Claim #20895 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Observation of the passage of two points of light: probable observation of the space shuttle and the ISS.”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Summary
On the first day, the space shuttle was in the approach phase to the International Space Station, and on the following day it had joined the ISS.
Claim #20896 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 96% extraction confidence
“On the first day, at the time of the observation, the space shuttle was in the approach phase to the International Space Station. The following day, the shuttle had joined the ISS.”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The testimony is consistent with observation of the space shuttle and the International Space Station as a formation, except for the reported change in direction.
Claim #20897 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 95% extraction confidence
“The testimony is consistent with observation of this “formation,” except that the witness describes a change in direction:”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
Because the reported change in direction took place behind a chimney, the case description considers that the direction of movement may have been incorrectly estimated.
Claim #20898 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 95% extraction confidence
“since this change in direction took place behind an obstruction (chimney), it is possible to think that there was an incorrect estimation of the direction of movement.”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The case description attributes changes in brightness and appearance to varying sunlight reflection and reddening near the horizon.
Claim #20899 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“The changes in brightness and appearance are normal: the reflection of the sun varies during the passage, and approaching the horizon reddens the appearance of all”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The case is classified as B as a probable observation of the space shuttle and the ISS.
Claim #20900 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“This case is classified as “B”: probable observation of the space shuttle and the ISS.”
Source: SAVIGNE-SUR-LATHAN (37) 17.03.2009 // [[T0002]] Case description continuation
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